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A do it yourselfer does well- here’s the story

Some months ago, Greg, a local homeowner, came in to the store looking to buy some lacquer to re-finish his kitchen, He was going to undertake this project as an anniversary present for his lovely wife.

Armed with very little knowledge and a lot of willingness he went forward with several gallons of Gemini’s water based titanium lacquer. Hector and I gave him several tips while he was at the store. As he was leaving I gave him my card and said call me if you have any trouble.

Two days later on the following Saturday I got the call, ” It wasn’t working the gun was spitting and the finish wasn’t working, what do I do?”  As luck would have it I didn’t have that much going on that weekend and so offered to go out and see what was going on.

Greg  had all the doors hanging in his garage and was set up pretty well to do the job but the binks cup gun he had was not the right tool. the water-base material was too thick and wasn’t coming out of  the gun well.

 This is probably the key thing in dealing with waterbased materials and that is having ther right gun with a wide enough opening on it to allow the  materials to come out and then atomize in to small enough particles to then actually lay down smoothly ( this is covered in full detail in the article on this blog titled “spray finishing basics”  by Thomas Craven) 

Once again as luck would have it I had my spray guns in the back of my truck and wasn’t going to be using then for the weekend and so offered to lend these to Greg. The project was off and running again. here is a picture of the garage spray booth,

The garage spray booth

The garage spray booth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 All things were off and sailing once again! here is a picture of Greg doing the kitchen faces, note that he has the place properly masked off so that all the over spray is captured and not covering the rest of the finish work. ( for an never having done a finishing job, Greg had a few things going for him. I was impressed )

Greg going to town fully out fitted

Greg going to town fully out fitted

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see here  Greg is now using the new gravity spray gun he  later bought from Annex for under $100

He also has a the 3m reusable cup system  you can see here on the top of his gun, this allows him to refill the gun easily and spray in all directions including up.

You would think all was well and the family would live happily ever after in there new kitchen but not yet, the next previously unmentioned aspect was yet to be discovered.

So after sanding his fingers to the bone and getting the finish just right, Greg’s wife has a little spot  of something on a cabinet and proceeds to break out the 409 and clean it off , the day after the final coating and it went down to the bare wood!

The Wife was in despair and Greg was ready to shoot me for selling him a low quality product! the paint was soft and with his little kids was doomed!

Water base coating are actually tougher and more durable then there solvent based counter parts BUT ! you have to let them cure ! the Kitchen cabinet Manufacturer’s Aassociation let’s their test panels cure for 30 days before subjecting then to all the things they do i.e. mustered, vinegar, jelly, alcohol and all the other house hold product they test.

With reluctance, Greg was willing to let the finish cure until after the holiday before shooting me to see if in fact I was on the up and up with him.

As my luck would have it the finish cured hard and has resisted all that  could be throw at it. Here is the final shot after the holidays and all was said and done.

a stunning piece of work

a stunning piece of work

Greg called me up after the holidays to thank me for seeing the project through to a done.

As you can see it turned out great in the end.

Thanks to  Home Owner Greg, for sharing the pictures with me and the permission to post the story on our Blog.

If you have a project you would like to have some help with send me a line, if you are interested in doing it you self  I’ll set you up and turn you looSe, If you want a professional finisher to do the work I have the names and numbers of nearly every cabinet shop in the surrounding area and would be happy to refer you to the people i have seen consistently do good work.

Greg Saunders
818-439-9297

Annex Paint
7450 Reseda Blvd.
Reseda California
91335

January 19, 2009 - Posted by | Water based Lacquers, Wood finishing | , , , , ,

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